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Beltantis Torrence Groovy Guns	Posted - 2010.03.19 15:36:00 - [1] Edited by: Beltantis Torrence on 19/03/2010 15:36:32 Originally by: Amarr Supremacist 6) Did I mention you should fly a Rupture instead? Fitted like this preferably: [Rupture, Intigo's Rupture] - Intigo Honestly the armor plated one is better. It's still pretty mobile and the web is worth the midslot. Likewise the 425's track poorly. The setup below will **** frigates all day long. [Rupture, Rupture] Damage Control II 1600mm Reinforced Crystalline Carbonide Plates I Tracking Enhancer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II 10MN MicroWarpdrive I Stasis Webifier II Warp Disruptor II Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M Standard Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Flameburst Light Missile Standard Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Flameburst Light Missile Medium Projectile Ambit Extension I Medium Projectile Ambit Extension I Medium Projectile Collision Accelerator I Warrior II x5
Beltantis Torrence Groovy Guns	Posted - 2010.03.19 15:44:00 - [2] Originally by: BXDRED Please don't respond.. "with you could have flown XX Ship" Instead of a Stabber. (I know that!) I'm trying to learn how to FLY A STABBER. And the proper target selection for a STABBER. Other than that, thanks for all the helpful feedback Why? The stabber is a hit and run ship that works well in roaming gangs. It's not particularly good at solo PVP unless you fit it specifically to kill certain types of ships (anti-frig or anti-cruiser) in which case you'll be wide open at losing to other types of ships. That's generally true for anything though. Before you undock your fit should be setup to kill certain types of things and you should avoid things that aren't on that list. The stabber doesn't have the grid and slots to comfortably tank a dram, fit neuts and also have web + warp disruptor to seal the kill. A bellicose or rupture is much better at the job. Skill in the game is not about being awesome at flying one ship, its about knowing how the rock/paper/scissors match of PVP works and then carrying out on that.
Beltantis Torrence Groovy Guns	Posted - 2010.03.19 16:44:00 - [3] Originally by: Amarr Supremacist Edited by: Amarr Supremacist on 19/03/2010 15:54:31 The Rupture I linked is a BETTER Stabber than the Stabber itself. It's a better ship to learn to fly the Vagabond. There is no reason to fly a Stabber at all. Originally by: Beltantis Torrence Edited by: Beltantis Torrence on 19/03/2010 15:36:32 Originally by: Amarr Supremacist 6) Did I mention you should fly a Rupture instead? Fitted like this preferably: [Rupture, Intigo's Rupture] - Intigo Honestly the armor plated one is better. It's still pretty mobile and the web is worth the midslot. Likewise the 425's track poorly. The setup below will **** frigates all day long. No. Also, mine was a general fit. And yours is pretty terrible. Infact, yours is so bad that it would be EASIER for a Frigate to go up against that due to the lack of Neuts. 1 Web will not do anything vs a Frigate like the Dramiel that packs an AB + Scram, he will still easily avoid your damage. You don't know what you're talking about, I'm afraid. - Intigo Tell that to the 500 mil isk in ships or so I've soloed with that fit in 5 or so outing. http://www.caldarimilitia.org/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=171770 http://www.caldarimilitia.org/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=171755 http://www.caldarimilitia.org/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=171766 (I soloed the Ishkur and Thrasher, that other gang that killed the rapier wasn't with me) http://www.caldarimilitia.org/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=171719 http://www.caldarimilitia.org/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=167895 (I soloed four out of those five, I had nothing to do with the brutix kill and those guys had nothing to do with mine). Etc, etc, etc. Yeah its a horrible fit and clearly I don't know what I'm talking about.
Beltantis Torrence Groovy Guns	Posted - 2010.03.20 18:21:00 - [4] The advent of the faction frigs makes the mini-vaga (and vaga as well) a lot harder to do. I used to run around with a TC arty stabber and pop ceptors chasing me but the faction frigs have too much HP and speed to do that now. Also weakened sniper hacs vs frigs as a decent faction frig pilot can get to you fast enough to put a tackle on you close range where you don't have drones to kill them. My zealot and sneagle have been sitting tucked away in station for the short term as they aren't as solo viable against bc + support fleets these days as they used to be.

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